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		<title>By: andrewgrill (Andrew Grill)</title>
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		<dc:creator>andrewgrill (Andrew Grill)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jul 2010 16:16:50 +0000</pubDate>
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@robingrant now venturing into the Eurostar story - how will he walk the tightrope my view frm dec09 [link to post] #socialbuzz&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://chatcatcher.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Posted using Chat Catcher&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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@robingrant now venturing into the Eurostar story &#8211; how will he walk the tightrope my view frm dec09 [link to post] #socialbuzz</p>
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		<title>By: TelcoGeek (Richard Fogg)</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Mar 2010 22:34:42 +0000</pubDate>
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@singleredfish Here&#8217;s a good one from @andrewgrill mate:  [link to post] &#8211; &#038; there&#8217;s a whole bunch of good stuff on there</p>
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		<title>By: singleredfish (Matt Ormrod)</title>
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Thanks to @TelcoGeek: Here&#039;s a good one from @andrewgrill mate:  [link to post] - &amp; there&#039;s a whole bunch of good stuff on there&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://chatcatcher.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Posted using Chat Catcher&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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Thanks to @TelcoGeek: Here&#8217;s a good one from @andrewgrill mate:  [link to post] &#8211; &#038; there&#8217;s a whole bunch of good stuff on there</p>
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		<title>By: Anthony McLean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anthony McLean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How is it no-one got the sack for this? (i.e. Richard Brown)

NOTE : This isn&#039;t about the mechanical issues, its about a total lack of foresight and responsiveness to previous failures.

The 2008 chunnel fire was fair/ample warning that &quot;no plan was in place&quot;.

Its unrealistic to expect the same management, who created this failed system, to be skilled enough to fix it.... or for that matter to deserve a second chance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How is it no-one got the sack for this? (i.e. Richard Brown)</p>
<p>NOTE : This isn&#8217;t about the mechanical issues, its about a total lack of foresight and responsiveness to previous failures.</p>
<p>The 2008 chunnel fire was fair/ample warning that &#8220;no plan was in place&#8221;.</p>
<p>Its unrealistic to expect the same management, who created this failed system, to be skilled enough to fix it&#8230;. or for that matter to deserve a second chance.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew Grill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Grill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 14:03:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just received the following from Simon Redfern at Eurostar - hats off for the admission of errors and desire to fix.


Name: Simon Redfern
email: simon.redfern @eurostar.com
message: Hello

You posted on your blog about the Eurostar trains that broke down in December, and made the point about the need for better communication with our passengers. 

I thought you might be interested to see a copy of the Independent Review into the events, and our response which has just been published.

You can find our response here http://bit.ly/9idW1l together with a visual representation of what happened on the day.

We are extremely sorry for what happened, and take the situation very seriously. We’ve already taken action to address many of the Review’s recommendations, and we are committed to implementing all of its recommendations as quickly as possible. Above all we are focused on:

Improving passenger care in disruption
Improving communications, and
Strengthening the resilience of our trains

The Eurostar communications team will be providing information and updates at &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/eurostarcomms&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@eurostarcomms&lt;/a&gt; where we’ll be working closely with &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/little_break&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@little_break&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href=&quot;http://twitter.com/creamoflondon&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@creamoflondon&lt;/a&gt;. You’ll find us making corporate announcements there as well as reporting back should there be any key service updates.  

I hope you have time to look at the review findings, particularly on the communications side of things.  If you have any thoughts please don’t hesitate to let me know.

All the best

Simon Redfern
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just received the following from Simon Redfern at Eurostar &#8211; hats off for the admission of errors and desire to fix.</p>
<p>Name: Simon Redfern<br />
email: simon.redfern @eurostar.com<br />
message: Hello</p>
<p>You posted on your blog about the Eurostar trains that broke down in December, and made the point about the need for better communication with our passengers. </p>
<p>I thought you might be interested to see a copy of the Independent Review into the events, and our response which has just been published.</p>
<p>You can find our response here <a href="http://bit.ly/9idW1l" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/9idW1l</a> together with a visual representation of what happened on the day.</p>
<p>We are extremely sorry for what happened, and take the situation very seriously. We’ve already taken action to address many of the Review’s recommendations, and we are committed to implementing all of its recommendations as quickly as possible. Above all we are focused on:</p>
<p>Improving passenger care in disruption<br />
Improving communications, and<br />
Strengthening the resilience of our trains</p>
<p>The Eurostar communications team will be providing information and updates at <a href="http://twitter.com/eurostarcomms" rel="nofollow">@eurostarcomms</a> where we’ll be working closely with <a href="http://twitter.com/little_break" rel="nofollow">@little_break</a> and <a href="http://twitter.com/creamoflondon" rel="nofollow">@creamoflondon</a>. You’ll find us making corporate announcements there as well as reporting back should there be any key service updates.  </p>
<p>I hope you have time to look at the review findings, particularly on the communications side of things.  If you have any thoughts please don’t hesitate to let me know.</p>
<p>All the best</p>
<p>Simon Redfern<br />
Eurostar</p>
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		<title>By: Dara Bell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dara Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This would appear to a reworking of the original PR of the Tunnel.  I was meant to speak with John Pike who did the communications on the Tunnel Project.

It has been poor since the inspeption.  With large public projects some people get it right London Olypic bid and some get it wrong.  Oh and do not mention the Dome.  I think they will learn the hard way through the negative plublicity, which you refer to.  Others seem to feel this on the comments, I mean how much does a Twitter cost, nil preux.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This would appear to a reworking of the original PR of the Tunnel.  I was meant to speak with John Pike who did the communications on the Tunnel Project.</p>
<p>It has been poor since the inspeption.  With large public projects some people get it right London Olypic bid and some get it wrong.  Oh and do not mention the Dome.  I think they will learn the hard way through the negative plublicity, which you refer to.  Others seem to feel this on the comments, I mean how much does a Twitter cost, nil preux.</p>
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		<title>By: St Pancras..Eurostar</title>
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		<dc:creator>St Pancras..Eurostar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jan 2010 18:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Eurotrain services have had to be reduced again because of the snow. Not cancel, mind! We missed the latest problems, even though we went to Brussels for the weekend. All the main station websites have been excellent for info, like stpancras-international.co.uk and that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Eurotrain services have had to be reduced again because of the snow. Not cancel, mind! We missed the latest problems, even though we went to Brussels for the weekend. All the main station websites have been excellent for info, like stpancras-international.co.uk and that.</p>
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		<title>By: Rich Baker</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rich Baker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Dec 2009 10:55:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Andrew. Great post and I agree generally. However, the point around the agency feeling the need to defend their actions publicly (and instead expose their client as the one making the error of judgement) doesn&#039;t sit well with me. They should have sucked up the criticism, and responded to feedback from the public and other social media commentators.
The most important thing in all of this is the reputation of the client, Eurostar. That&#039;s what WOM is all about isn&#039;t it! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Andrew. Great post and I agree generally. However, the point around the agency feeling the need to defend their actions publicly (and instead expose their client as the one making the error of judgement) doesn&#8217;t sit well with me. They should have sucked up the criticism, and responded to feedback from the public and other social media commentators.<br />
The most important thing in all of this is the reputation of the client, Eurostar. That&#8217;s what WOM is all about isn&#8217;t it! :-)</p>
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		<title>By: torbenovergaard (Torben Overgaard)</title>
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		<dc:creator>torbenovergaard (Torben Overgaard)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Dec 2009 09:19:05 +0000</pubDate>
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Eurostar will implement a real-time listening and respond plan to engage in conversations in social media [link to post]&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; - &lt;a href=&quot;http://chatcatcher.com&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Posted using Chat Catcher&lt;/a&gt; </description>
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		<title>By: Andrew Grill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew Grill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:41:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Craig, I&#039;m actually in support of We Are Social - they have rolled up their sleeves and jumped right in - without a brief or even a purchase order.

How many other &quot;traditional agencies&quot; would do the same over a weekend and go beyond the call of duty.

Hats off to them for showing how as an industry we can respond quickly and help get the message out to the people that need it.

As with anything, a crisis tests every procedure and helps make things better for next time.

The real failing here is the Eurostar/Eurotunnel (traditional) communication efforts.  

This should be the focus of any enquiry.  Robin and the team should come out of this looking good and with lots of new business in 2010 in my view.

If as you suggest Eurostar may have been withholding information (and we may never know),  then we are back to the old ways of PR and it is hard for Social Media (and the We Are Social team) to fight against this somewhat traditional approach of PR which is to contain the message.  

This was my real point - social media promotes transparency which goes against standard PR training.

The irony is not lost on the term &quot;public relations&quot; which is really another name for &quot;media management&quot;.  

Social media does not afford this luxury so brands and companies need a different approach.

With social media, it’s all about Listen &gt; Learn &gt; Engage &gt; Integrate.

You have to start to listen and then engage to get anywhere and this is frankly painful for brands, so we should not beat them up, but  instead help them make the transition.

Remember the web 10 years ago…. “do we really need a website?” was the standard response.

Now it’s “so do we need a social media strategy?”.  People that ask this of me going forward will be given a 1 word response.

Eurostar.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Craig, I&#8217;m actually in support of We Are Social &#8211; they have rolled up their sleeves and jumped right in &#8211; without a brief or even a purchase order.</p>
<p>How many other &#8220;traditional agencies&#8221; would do the same over a weekend and go beyond the call of duty.</p>
<p>Hats off to them for showing how as an industry we can respond quickly and help get the message out to the people that need it.</p>
<p>As with anything, a crisis tests every procedure and helps make things better for next time.</p>
<p>The real failing here is the Eurostar/Eurotunnel (traditional) communication efforts.  </p>
<p>This should be the focus of any enquiry.  Robin and the team should come out of this looking good and with lots of new business in 2010 in my view.</p>
<p>If as you suggest Eurostar may have been withholding information (and we may never know),  then we are back to the old ways of PR and it is hard for Social Media (and the We Are Social team) to fight against this somewhat traditional approach of PR which is to contain the message.  </p>
<p>This was my real point &#8211; social media promotes transparency which goes against standard PR training.</p>
<p>The irony is not lost on the term &#8220;public relations&#8221; which is really another name for &#8220;media management&#8221;.  </p>
<p>Social media does not afford this luxury so brands and companies need a different approach.</p>
<p>With social media, it’s all about Listen > Learn > Engage > Integrate.</p>
<p>You have to start to listen and then engage to get anywhere and this is frankly painful for brands, so we should not beat them up, but  instead help them make the transition.</p>
<p>Remember the web 10 years ago…. “do we really need a website?” was the standard response.</p>
<p>Now it’s “so do we need a social media strategy?”.  People that ask this of me going forward will be given a 1 word response.</p>
<p>Eurostar.</p>
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		<title>By: Craig McGill</title>
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		<dc:creator>Craig McGill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2009 13:31:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew, a good post - and I posted similar thoughts and pointers over on my own site at http://bit.ly/7NR1Tc - but the one thing that&#039;s fair to remember is that We Are Social weren&#039;t hired by Eurostar for crisis comms (or even day to day social media integration with traditional PR), they seem to have been on board for promoting getaways, so it&#039;s harsh to have a go at them for this.

Having said that, it may well be that the client just didn&#039;t want to say anything or put anything out via these channels, which you can totally appreciate WAS not pointing out to people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew, a good post &#8211; and I posted similar thoughts and pointers over on my own site at <a href="http://bit.ly/7NR1Tc" rel="nofollow">http://bit.ly/7NR1Tc</a> &#8211; but the one thing that&#8217;s fair to remember is that We Are Social weren&#8217;t hired by Eurostar for crisis comms (or even day to day social media integration with traditional PR), they seem to have been on board for promoting getaways, so it&#8217;s harsh to have a go at them for this.</p>
<p>Having said that, it may well be that the client just didn&#8217;t want to say anything or put anything out via these channels, which you can totally appreciate WAS not pointing out to people.</p>
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